Re: Proposed ordinance for San Antonio

Bart Stavisky <bart_stavisky@...>

Yahoo is reporting that the ordinance passed and is going into
effect in 5 days with a 90 day grace period..

From: Tom O'Brien
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 12:18 PM
Subject: RE: [W5SC] Re: Proposed ordinance for San Antonio


The council is not voting on an ordinance today, because there *is no* ordinance. There is a Request for Council Action, which gives the reasoning and describes the functional change that is desired. The RFCA was written by an Assistant Chief and an Assistant City Manager. What the Council will likely do is direct someone to draft an ordinance.

-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Land
Sent: Oct 7, 2010 10:53 AM
Subject: RE: [W5SC] Re: Proposed ordinance for San Antonio

Yes, they are voting today. As I read this, while we always want more
clarity, it does not prohibit talking on a radio device. It just prohibits
texting or activities other than talking. Seems that covers what ham ops
do. If it is interpreted to interfere with "talking", then it would appear
to ban police use of their radios, as well as every other government
employee use of mobile radios.
I don't see where we have a problem???

-----Original Message-----
From: [] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: [W5SC] Re: Proposed ordinance for San Antonio

Aren't they voting on it today?

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Tom O'Brien <>wrote:

> Louis,
> You are right, in that FCC Licensed Ops need to be exempted from this
> ordinance.
> The San Antonio ordinance on operating in School Zones is 19-254 and it
> does not exempt FCC licensed operators.
> The Texas Transportation Code section 545-425 *does* exempt FCC licensed
> operators, and it specifically pre-empts local ordinances.
> We intend to work with the writers of the ordinance to get the right
> language in place. ARRL Volunteer Counsel will be working with some local
> hams.
> SA hams who would like to help with this should contact<>
> 73TomAB5XZ
> San Antonio, TX
> -----Original Message-----
> From: k5stx
> Sent: Oct 7, 2010 6:43 AM
> To: <>
> Subject: [W5SC] Re: Proposed ordinance for San Antonio
> Looks like some SA Hams need to call their City Council person and express
> concerns, and have a clarification added to exempt FCC Licensed Operators,
> much as they did with the school zone Ordinance.
> --- In <>, Tom O'Brien
> <tpobrienjr@...> wrote:
> >
> > This item is on the agenda for the Thursday October 7 San Antonio City
> Council meeting.
> >
> >
> > Staff recommends Amending Chapter 19, Article VII of the City Code, by
> adding a new section under Section 19, which will prohibit the use of a
> hand-held mobile communications device to send, read, or write a text
> message, or engage in any other use of the device besides dialing
> numbers or talking to another person, while operating a motor vehicle, and
> providing for a fine of up to $200 per violation."
> >
> > How will this apply to your ham radio mobile operation?
> >
> > 1. APRS?
> > 2. D-STAR?
> > 3. changing channel on your handie?
> > 4. other?
> >
> > The ordinance is supposed to prevent internet texting, websurfing,
> watching movies, etc., using mobile phones. What can we do to assure that
> this dragnet ordinance doesn't inadvertently catch radio amateurs?
> >
> > The background memo for the ordinance is at
> >
> >
> >
> > 73TomAB5XZ
> >


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