Re: Proposed ordinance for San Antonio

Charles Land

Yes, they are voting today. As I read this, while we always want more
clarity, it does not prohibit talking on a radio device. It just prohibits
texting or activities other than talking. Seems that covers what ham ops
do. If it is interpreted to interfere with "talking", then it would appear
to ban police use of their radios, as well as every other government
employee use of mobile radios.
I don't see where we have a problem???

-----Original Message-----
From: W5SC@... [mailto:W5SC@...] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 9:45 AM
To: W5SC@...
Subject: Re: [W5SC] Re: Proposed ordinance for San Antonio

Aren't they voting on it today?

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Tom O'Brien <tpobrienjr@...>wrote:


You are right, in that FCC Licensed Ops need to be exempted from this
The San Antonio ordinance on operating in School Zones is 19-254 and it
does not exempt FCC licensed operators.
The Texas Transportation Code section 545-425 *does* exempt FCC licensed
operators, and it specifically pre-empts local ordinances.

We intend to work with the writers of the ordinance to get the right
language in place. ARRL Volunteer Counsel will be working with some local

SA hams who would like to help with this should contact

San Antonio, TX

-----Original Message-----
From: k5stx
Sent: Oct 7, 2010 6:43 AM
To: W5SC@... <>
Subject: [W5SC] Re: Proposed ordinance for San Antonio

Looks like some SA Hams need to call their City Council person and express
concerns, and have a clarification added to exempt FCC Licensed Operators,
much as they did with the school zone Ordinance.


--- In W5SC@... <>, Tom O'Brien
<tpobrienjr@...> wrote:

This item is on the agenda for the Thursday October 7 San Antonio City
Council meeting.


Staff recommends Amending Chapter 19, Article VII of the City Code, by
adding a new section under Section 19, which will prohibit the use of a
hand-held mobile communications device to send, read, or write a text
message, or engage in any other use of the device besides dialing
numbers or talking to another person, while operating a motor vehicle, and
providing for a fine of up to $200 per violation."

How will this apply to your ham radio mobile operation?

1. APRS?
2. D-STAR?
3. changing channel on your handie?
4. other?

The ordinance is supposed to prevent internet texting, websurfing,
watching movies, etc., using mobile phones. What can we do to assure that
this dragnet ordinance doesn't inadvertently catch radio amateurs?

The background memo for the ordinance is at



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